BYU and the Volunteer Modesty Militia

By Trevor Antley.

At Brigham Young University, there is a vigilant but little appreciated group of awkward-acting men known as the Volunteer Modesty Militia. These good Samaritans do what the BYU Honor Code Office is too afraid to do: they protect all of us by calling out immodest young women who dare to dress attractively, and who have the nerve to do it on the campus dedicated to our beloved Brigham Young, who as we all know is the model for everything the Honor Code stands for (minus, of course, that whole beard thing).

And now I’m here to report the latest actions of the Volunteer Modesty Militia and their comrades: a good Samaritan pwns a BYU girl for endangering all of our spiritual safety with her skanky outfit.

On Valentine’s day night, attractive accounting major Brittany Molina was diligently studying in the Tanner building. Brittany was studying in a cubicle. You know, one of those cubicles shaped like a cube. The kind that keeps people from easily seeing you. But even cubicles can’t stop the Volunteer Modesty Militia. As she was studying, Brittany gets a tap on her shoulder and an awkward guy hands her a note. Considering that it’s Valentine’s day, Brittany is actually really flattered by this. She smiles and he walks away. Below is a photo of the cute Valentine’s note that Brittany received

That’s right. Brittany’s scandalous outfit, hidden behind a Tanner-building cubicle, made this devout Honor Code enforcer feel morally unsafe. Now, I know what you’re thinking: what erotic clothing could Brittany have provocatively tossed on that day? Mini-skirt? Sports bra? Bikini?

Below is a photo of Brittany’s outfit that day.

After seeing the above photo of scantily-clad Brittany, the Valentines note she received is completely understandable. And plus, it was Valentine’s Day. And that just makes it cute!

Now, I know what you might be thinking. Considering Brittany’s outfit (or any possible outfit, really), the note’s morbid self-righteousness and complete lack of tact was uncalled for. You might also be thinking that if this weird, creepy guy finds the sight of a girl’s knees so completely distracting that he has to censure her for it, he might be the one with the issue.

But that’s because you just don’t get it: Look, it doesn’t matter that personal modesty is a completely social and cultural construct, or that 19th century Brigham Young would have been shocked that we have women wearing pants and short-sleeve shirts wandering around his university. And much less temple-attending Saints wearing two-piece temple undergarments that don’t extend past the elbows (which Brother Brigham would never have allowed).

Look, Brittany got pwned by this good Samaritan, and thank goodness she did. I never would have been able to study with her sitting in a cubicle near me. And, if I’m being completely honest, I also believe that we should just ban pretty girls in general from even enrolling at BYU, or we should at least ban them from studying in public. It’s just too distracting for the rest of us. How am I supposed to get anything done with the Brittany Molina’s of the world sitting near me? Honestly, are we really going to let girls like this corrupt the morals of our university?  Will we let Brittany Molina and girls like her continue to endanger all of our spiritual safety?

You’re damn right we won’t.

Because of this, I publicly declare my allegiance to the Volunteer Modesty Militia and the fight against the moral injustice of allowing girls at our university to dress attractively. Let us all give a hearty thanks to the vigilant weirdos at the Volunteer Modesty Militia for keeping our libraries and study cubicles clean, pure, and morally safe.

(psst: Here’s Brittany’s account of what happened. Also… follow me on Twitter)

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78 Comments on “BYU and the Volunteer Modesty Militia”

  1. February 15, 2012 at 4:46 pm #

    this is why BYU is so damn–I mean darn–awesome.

    • December 30, 2012 at 9:33 pm #

      Yes. From BYU, the campus where you’ll get directions based on “Rape Hill” as a landmark.

  2. Maria
    February 15, 2012 at 4:49 pm #

    Her dress is actually too short by BYU standards. So…yeah.

    • Joel roberts
      February 15, 2012 at 5:17 pm #

      Yah and did you see that mote in her eye too?!

      • February 15, 2012 at 6:45 pm #

        His note was completely inappropriate, but it doesn’t change the fact that she was not dressed in accordance with BYU standards. And before anyone says that I’m being judgmental, part of the honor code also states helping others live those standards. I’m tired of people not being able to saying anything about others not living up to the standards in the honor code that they signed and agreed to live. It saddens me that we are constantly making jokes about those who do.

        • February 15, 2012 at 8:21 pm #

          From the BYU Honor Code standards for women:

          “A clean and well-cared-for appearance should be maintained. Clothing is inappropriate when it is sleeveless, strapless, backless, or revealing; has slits above the knee; or is form fitting. Dresses, skirts, and shorts must be knee-length or longer. Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extremes in styles or colors. Excessive ear piercing (more than one per ear) and all other body piercing are not acceptable. Shoes should be worn in all public campus areas.”

          http://saas.byu.edu/catalog/2011-2012ucat/GeneralInfo/HonorCode.php#HCOfficeInvovement

          Which part of the Honor Code did she violate?

          • some random dude
            February 15, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

            As repulsed as I am Brittany’s creeper, it does appear to me that her dress (or is it a skirt? I’m horrible at this!) isn’t quite reaching her knee.

          • February 16, 2012 at 12:56 am #

            Leggings qualify as form-fitting and her skirt is above the knee. Notice, I did not say that she was dressed provocatively, but still not to BYU standards. How hard would it be to have worn a skirt that was a few inches longer? She agreed to live these standards and signed her name to that affect when she enrolled and every year after. I have a hard time with people who don’t live up to their agreements, even if they are just skirting the line…

          • February 16, 2012 at 7:39 am #

            Leggings qualify as form-fitting

            Says who? That isn’t explicitly stated in the Honor Code, and in five years of attending BYU myself, I never heard it.

            Beyond that, I can’t even tell whether or not those are true “leggings.” They look like plain ol’ black pants to me. I certainly can’t see any more to her legs than what would be on display in a regular pair of jeans.

            and her skirt is above the knee

            Yes, but she’s wearing pants with that dress—which means that it’s functioning as more of an overlong shirt or tunic. Truly, I didn’t even notice that it was a dress until it was pointed out in the comments. The effect of her ensemble isn’t much different than what you would get wearing this shirt (off a Muslim modesty site!):

            http://shop.alsharifa.com/princess-long-indian-kurti-tunic/

            Or in other words, she isn’t in violation of the Honor Code. She’s only in violation of your ridiculous and idiosyncratic interpretation of the Honor Code.

            Suddenly that story from the 60s or 70s of the woman who was turned away from the testing center for wearing jeans, then went into the bathroom, took off her pants, buttoned up her long coat and was admitted into the testing center without pants is making a lot more sense.

          • BigDaddy
            February 16, 2012 at 8:37 am #

            Is anyone weirded out by the fact that these dorks walk around campus checking out all of the girls? It may be better if they keep their eyes to themselves. My daughter will be attending BYU next year and I will be informing her that any boy that decides he needs to insult her, shall get a shot of pepper spray in the face for being a creeper. Something about Mathew 7:3 comes to my mine. These boys should be easy to identify with the beam sticking out of their eye. Girls beware, these boys are NOT marriage material!

          • Lindsey
            February 16, 2012 at 8:54 pm #

            Technically her shirt/dress think is a few inches above her knee. While I don’t agree with the girls wearing leggings as pants or “cover-ups” for short dresses/skirts. This instance was a bit excessive. I don’t know, maybe her shirt was really loose and revealing in certain ways? Anyway, she didn’t deserve the note, yes, but she should still be trying to keep things knee-length or longer.

          • Lish
            February 17, 2012 at 9:19 pm #

            @Ms. Jack – Somehow I don’t trust somebody who demands that their own opinion be accepted, but who at the same time calls other people’s opinions “ridiculous and idiosyncratic.”

            (Especially when somebody gives a valid point – her dress was above the knee by a couple of inches, and it would have been more if she was sitting down.)

            I also don’t get good feelings when I see a rather large number of people who are mostly Mormon and/or BYU students who make light of the Honor Code by using swear words dripping with sarcasm, instead of supporting it and making uplifting comments about it.

          • February 20, 2012 at 3:32 pm #

            LishSomehow I don’t trust somebody who demands that their own opinion be accepted, but who at the same time calls other people’s opinions “ridiculous and idiosyncratic.”

            I don’t recall “demanding” that my own opinion be accepted, nor did I ask for anyone to trust me. This is a blog where a discussion related to the Honor Code is taking place. This is of interest to me because I am (a) a BYU alumna; (b) married to a Mormon; (c) raising a daughter in both the LDS faith as well as my own, and she may someday express an interest in attending BYU. So I gave my opinion on the matter. How you take that opinion is your own business.

            Especially when somebody gives a valid point – her dress was above the knee by a couple of inches, and it would have been more if she was sitting down

            And I responded with a valid point–Ms. Molina is wearing pants. I was completely unaware in my five years of attending BYU that one could not wear a dress over pants. I mean, that’s just mind-boggling. A short dress + pants covers up more than, say, a t-shirt + pants, so why is the former bad and the latter good? I also always thought the point of the dress standards found in the Honor Code was cleanliness and “modesty” (as Mormons define it–i. e. cover up), not legalistic nitpicking. Since Ms. Molina was clearly covered from shoulder to wrist to toe, and her appearance looks pretty well-kept to me, I don’t see how anyone could accuse her of breaking the Honor Code.

            I do take issue with how Mormons approach the subject of “modesty” in general, but that’s really tangential to the issue at hand.

            I also don’t get good feelings when I see a rather large number of people who are mostly Mormon and/or BYU students who make light of the Honor Code by using swear words dripping with sarcasm, instead of supporting it and making uplifting comments about it.

            I am a BYU alumna, but I’m not LDS. You’re welcome to cite where I’ve made light of the Honor Code. I certainly don’t recall doing so. In my opinion, it’s people like you and Mary Keller and our mystery young man who make the Honor Code look bad—not people like Brittany Molina.

            And since you don’t “trust” my opinions, then I assume that won’t bother you very much.

        • Kitty
          February 16, 2012 at 5:13 pm #

          PUKE!

        • Tim Byram
          February 16, 2012 at 5:55 pm #

          I went to BYU and loved this school with all of my heart. And I’m all for enforcing the honor code to the letter of the law………..if it is done with good judgement and a spirit of love…….which in all sincerity I don’t feel this young man used either. He passed judgement on this girl in a spirit of self righteousness. If this young man was intent on enforcing the letter of the law so as to keep a Christlike atmosphere here is how he could have approached it, “Dear Sister. Today is Valentine’s Day and I just wanted to compliment you on being an attractive young woman. I just wanted to bring something to your attention that I noticed while admiring your beauty. I know it may seem small, but I noticed your skirt was not knee length. By no means is your dress immodest or do I believe you are not fully in line with the spirit of the dress and grooming standards. I would encourage you in the future to be aware of this when planning your outfits. I know this is quite technical, but I feel as you have a beautful spirit about you, you will see my pure intention in pointing this out. Have a nice evening.” It is unfortunate this boy clearly lacks the perception and tack to deliver his “righteous” message.

    • Adam
      February 15, 2012 at 8:57 pm #

      While technically the dress is to short, that is trumped by the “revealing” line in the honor code. Her clothing is clearly not revealing.

      More importantly, why can this gentleman not be responsible for his own thoughts? Doesn’t the church teach personal responsibility? Maybe he should learn to control his own thoughts and wandering eyes before blaming someone who is COMPLETELY covered almost to puritanical standards. Also, is it not church teaching that we “judge not least we be judged with the same judgement?” Yeah. Two words, self righteous.I she wasn’t wearing tights, fine, I can see the issue, but it is still not his place to police the student body like a vigilante. That is the job of the honor code office. There are proper channels for this sort of thing.

      Frankly, I’m disgusted by the behavior of the students of the University I attended. Completely missing the entire point of the gospel and the honor code.

      • February 16, 2012 at 1:05 am #

        First, just because she was covered doesn’t mean she was living up to the honor code standards. Second, one of the points in the Honor Code statement is that we “Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code”.
        http://saas.byu.edu/catalog/2011-2012ucat/GeneralInfo/HonorCode.php#HCOfficeInvovement
        I’ll be the first to say that he has not tact and many points of his note are inappropriate but we (those of us that attend BYU) still have a duty to maintain and help others maintain these standards. If you don’t like it, don’t go to a school with an honor code. There are plenty to choose from.

        • Jen
          February 16, 2012 at 12:11 pm #

          Wait…you’re telling me that BYU has written into its code of conduct a rule that REQUIRES students to judge other students and tell them what to do? It was his DUTY to approach a random stranger and nitpick her outfit choice? This is really a thing? And students don’t see anything wrong with this?

          • Tim Byram
            February 16, 2012 at 5:59 pm #

            Agree 100%. Having attended and loved every minute at BYU, it was and is still sad to hear stories like this of people that clearly are “looking beyond the mark”. No matter how hard I try I can’t imagine Christ doing anything of this nature. Anyone with a brain can look at her outfit, and regardless of the 1 inch above the knee, identify that she is wearing ABSOLUTELY nothing to evoke innapropriate feelings from the opposite sex.

        • Dr Jeep
          February 16, 2012 at 5:13 pm #

          I really hope you’re trolling, because if BYU keeps around faculty so stubborn as to continually repeat a refuted argument pushing a pharisean interpretation of the honor code and so dense as to make an argument supporting the harrasser while justifying themselves in defending the indefensible with meaningless qualifications like, “I’ll be the first to say that he has not tact” — a cheap trick out of the modern political rhetoric playbook — then perverts writing creepy notes isn’t the university’s biggest problem…

      • Todd
        February 18, 2012 at 7:21 am #

        @Adam – The church does teach personal responsibility. Nobody is perfect. And please don’t pass judgement on all BYU students by saying that we “miss the entire point of the gospel and the honor code.” That statement, my friend, is a biting, sweeping judgement, and is no better than this young man’s mistake.

        Frankly, I’m offended to see all of the negative backlash directed towards 1) one young man, who right now must feel totally crushed (much more than Brittany did), 2) the Honor Code (which represents good, high moral standards), and 3) BYU students in general, who everybody knows are imperfect, but who are HIGHLY respected all across the country by many. In the two years that I’ve been 1500 miles away from Provo, I have seen many cases where BYU alumni are quite highly regarded and sought after for both their standards and success.

        So yeah, sure, this young man made a mistake. But I’ve seen many mistakes much worse than this, including the sweeping response towards him which has been much more negative.

    • February 15, 2012 at 11:12 pm #

      i dont even think thats a dress…i think shes wearing one of those extra long peasant blouses with an empire waist and leggings underneath. what a whore!

      • LaVerite (The Truth).........hurts sometimes
        February 17, 2012 at 4:11 pm #

        I sincerely hope this is sarcastic, otherwise: Takes one to know one darling.

        She looks very decent to me. I attended a ‘Christian’ (not the same as Mormon) school which had a strict dress code and this would have been considered very decent. This is the problem today, misplaced priorities. So called religions more concerned about outward appearances than the heart which is what matters. As a Christian, I am more concerned about the heart and where it is placed/ who it follows because I know that once that is right, the rest will follow. Last I checked there’s no where in the Bible that Jesus condemned anyone for their clothing, but numerous accounts of his rebuking people for their actions and where their hearts were. The zealots at BYU and other conservative universities would be well advised to take note of this.

        That said, that does not mean one should dress indecently. However, I believe this lady (and she is stunning…..and I am a straight female :D) is very VERY decently dressed.

      • T
        February 20, 2012 at 11:59 am #

        Somethings wrong with you!!!!

  3. February 15, 2012 at 5:59 pm #

    Brillant again ! Congratulations, guy.

  4. Katie
    February 15, 2012 at 6:12 pm #

    how do you guys know he wasn’t doing it as a prank?

    • Adam
      February 15, 2012 at 8:59 pm #

      Because at BYU, this sort of thing is dead serious, never a prank. Attend BYU for more than a month and you know.

    • Jen
      February 16, 2012 at 11:19 am #

      Read the comments with all the BYU students defending it. I wish he was being funny.

  5. February 15, 2012 at 6:13 pm #

    This is both the best and the worst thing I’ve read today.

  6. February 15, 2012 at 7:02 pm #

    On top of the asinine, self-righteous complaint over a perfectly tame outfit, how cowardly is this guy that he just handed her the note (which he didn’t sign) and got the hell out of there?

  7. February 15, 2012 at 7:06 pm #

    I can only imagine it’s because of how low (not very low at all, IMO) her dress is cut … which only demonstrates that “modesty” in this context is about forcing women to infantilize their bodies (i.e. downplaying the fact that they have fully-developed breasts) so that men don’t feel so ridiculous when they treat those women like children. Because it is. Ridiculous.

  8. Kate
    February 15, 2012 at 7:42 pm #

    that is so stupid!!!! she is covering up all of her body. Nothing about that is inappropriate.

  9. Geoffwah
    February 15, 2012 at 7:53 pm #

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    CLASSIC!

  10. shayle
    February 15, 2012 at 8:06 pm #

    I don’t see anything wrong with her outfit…and isn’t it against the honor code to not cuss? i think so. so check yourself first and don’t be hypocritical.

    • February 15, 2012 at 8:11 pm #

      Sarcasm isn’t your forte?

      • shayle
        February 15, 2012 at 9:18 pm #

        shows how much you know…wasn’t using it.

        • February 16, 2012 at 4:33 am #

          I know…I -was- using it. My blog post is sarcastic.

          • February 16, 2012 at 4:35 pm #

            haha Shayle is havin a rough day. Hang in there lil buddy!

  11. Sav Collins
    February 15, 2012 at 8:26 pm #

    She’s wearing leggings and boots. Her dress may be short, but there’s no skin showing and her clothes are not form fitting. My fellow Mormons wear a shorter skirts than that with leggings and have never been put down like this. This kind of condescending crap is why I became inactive. Focus on God and treating your neighbors with love and spreading Jesus’ love, not how short her dress is, WITH leggings, sheesh! Messed up brains.

    • Adam
      February 15, 2012 at 9:01 pm #

      Ditto. I have a goatee and I love going to BYU and counting the condescending stares I get. Not even a student, and yet people pass judgement without even thinking about what they are doing. I couldn’t deal with the utter hypocrisy and self-righteous condescension either.

    • T
      February 20, 2012 at 12:00 pm #

      Amen!!!!

  12. BYU Luvah
    February 15, 2012 at 8:35 pm #

    I was on BYU campus once, dressed smartly in my shirt and tie. Someone from the honor code police stopped me and asked me to remove my tie. “Why?” I replied.
    “Because,” he said, “it’s pointing directly at your penis.”

    • betty
      February 15, 2012 at 9:03 pm #

      Best. Comment. Ever.

  13. February 15, 2012 at 8:51 pm #

    I’ve seen better handwriting from ten-year olds.

  14. Chele
    February 15, 2012 at 10:33 pm #

    Oh sure, it would be too short if it were a skirt or a dress. Let’s call it a long shirt. See, now it’s all ok.

    It’s things like this that give Mormons, and BYU, a bad name. Now go start doing something useful like uplifting someone self-righteous, self-declared honor code ‘enforcing’ meat heads.

  15. Joseph Paradis
    February 15, 2012 at 11:30 pm #

    Move along people… Nothing good comes from hurling insults. As far as I’m concerned, its not really our business, so we shouldn’t speak like it is.

  16. candice
    February 16, 2012 at 3:54 am #

    Please tell me this is all a bad joke PLEASE!!!!! She’s wearing OPAQUE leggings for hells sake. Who is this pervert vigilante?

    • T
      February 20, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

      Wow!!! This really makes Mormons look crazy!!! What the hell is wrong with people. The girl is covered from head to toe…seriously whats next…a bag over her face. GET A LIFE!!!! Oh and guy who wrote the letter,
      quit trying to demean women just cause there out of your league. You need serious help if you think that’s
      immodest!!!

  17. steve
    February 16, 2012 at 8:20 am #

    This is what happens when you’re obsessed with sex and repressing your own desires- everything looks like sex to you. Mormons are the most boring people imaginable.

  18. Dena
    February 16, 2012 at 8:23 am #

    Why are we ignoring the fact that this is clearly bullying and sexual harassment?

  19. Josh
    February 16, 2012 at 8:42 am #

    Sounds like the Volunteer Modesty Militia is on its way to being the Mormon Taliban.

  20. February 16, 2012 at 9:58 am #

    Damn, and I thought Iran and Saudi Arabia were the only places that encouraged sexually repressed judgmental young men to harass people on arbitrary measures of personal worth such as clothing.

  21. February 16, 2012 at 10:01 am #

    If you weren’t so sexually frustrated, the sight of a girl wouldn’t be such a distraction haha

  22. February 16, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    Great post.

    The comments, however, make me want to cry.

    “Well, technically that skirt is a half inch above the knee.”

    Really, friends? REALLY?

    I love us, but we Mormons have SERIOUS ISSUES sometimes.

  23. Miriam
    February 16, 2012 at 11:37 am #

    Dear Coward,

    You may want to consider that what you’ve written has a negative effect on women (and men) around you. Many people come to this university because they feel safe, morally as well as physically, here. They expect to be free of objectification from cowards like you who take it upon themselves to make wildly inappropriate judgments about matters they shouldn’t be dwelling on in the first place. Please consider that if you can’t look at a woman without feeling morally threatened by the shape of her knees, and if you then find a way to convince yourself that she’s at fault for your failing, and if you THEN take it upon yourself to tell her so, then you are an ass of the first order.

    Thank you.

    • Chris
      February 16, 2012 at 3:45 pm #

      Amen.

  24. Lee
    February 16, 2012 at 11:38 am #

    Mormons at BYU = a little bit like Muslims. It is not the duty of the man to school his thoughts. It is the fault of the women who push dirty thoughts into our minds. She also has a cute face which would be better veiled also.
    Hats off to this young man who is helping other helpless young men from having dirty thoughts because of such temptresses.

  25. February 16, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    Bravo, young man, for having the courage to write such a note, and for giving it to this tart who is obviously looking to entice the defenseless men on the campus to immoral thoughts. She should be careful that her scandalous attire doesn’t attract rapists or other sexual predators, as if they did attack her it would be entirely her fault.

    I also commend the young man’s penmanship (or should I say pencilmanship?). I am quite sure that it took immense courage to write this note, and approach the salcious young lady and then run away after handing her said note. The fortitude it took for him to approach, his moral code in jeopardy every step closer to her he took, was incredible. Hats off to this soldier on the bloody and bodystrewn battlefield of moral superiority.

    This is why BYU should simplify the dress code and require all young women to don burqas. After all, we don’t want to start seeing a rash of honor killings (which would be justifiable, of course) to protect the honor of the men at BYU.

  26. February 16, 2012 at 4:34 pm #

    How are people on BYU campus supposed to be able to read this blog post with all the pornography on it?! Did you think about that before you posted it?

    (i hope peeps get the sarcasm)

  27. J.D.
    February 16, 2012 at 4:46 pm #

    I think a lot of you aren’t quite reading what happened. If you look at the picture and judge her lack of honor code by the length of her skirt then you are missing what these “boys” saw. As it stated in the story she was seated in a cubicle. They would not even have seen nor been able to judge if her skirt was to her knees or not. If they had they would have been doing so at very bad angles of which they should probably be arrested for. So what were they giving her the note for? Since her back was too them, the only thing we can conclude is that they were likely on a floor above, looked from above down below and saw down her shirt. If they were perhaps on eye level the terms in which they gave the note would still likely have been because they saw the chest plate. There is no such terms for what is going on here, and if they did in fact give her the note because they saw from above, then well, they should likely be pepper sprayed.

  28. February 17, 2012 at 9:46 am #

    I think we’re all taking it upon ourselves to judge both parties too quickly with very limited information. (Granted, we’re all entitled to our own opinions.) Yes, his note was lacking a little tact, but at least he didn’t make a scene and call her out in front of a bunch of people. But I do appreciate the fact that he was willing to “help others live the honor code”. Was it in the best fashion or completely necessary, probably not. Is the picture of her outfit clear enough for anyone to make a modesty call? Not really. Should this guy be completely ridiculed for doing something he though was right (even if it wasn’t)? Probably not. But I guess now he’ll think twice before doing something that may have been within his conscious.

    My opinion, leggings aren’t pants. Actually, if you try get a new ecclesiastical endorsement online, it clarifies that leggings are, in fact, form-fitting and do not count as pants to make up for a skirt an inch or two too short. And yes, a lot of girls wear some seriously cute outfits on campus that aren’t 100% within dress and grooming standards. I don’t like looking at it either. Not because I’m a perv, but because it saddens me that there are so many women not living up to the commitments they sign their names to. Apparently there’s not as much honesty on campus as I hoped there would be. And it’s SO easy to dress modestly, and fashionably. I don’t see why girls can’t just do it. But, that’s totally beside the point and my own little tirade.

    • J.D.
      February 17, 2012 at 5:47 pm #

      perhaps she doesn’t have the money available to her to completely change her entire wardrobe but is instead wearing items of clothing but for her by her parents while still in high school? I know when I was at BYU I couldn’t afford buying more then groceries and random circumstance buys. Buying clothing was limited to a once in a while shirt but I pretty much kept all of the clothes I had from high school.

  29. katie
    February 17, 2012 at 1:16 pm #

    Obviously this sexually deprived guy got turned on when he got a glimpse of a bit of cleav as she leaned over to study, and by the shape of this chicks lower thigh.
    And then, not able to deal with his own shame of finding this girl sexually attractive that his seminary teacher taught him is a terrible sin, he lashed out in the awkwardest way possible.

    let’s just hope this guy gets a job in Provo right after he graduates and never goes more than ten miles from town. I remember debating with my not-Mormon roommate’s boyfriend on the east coast as to whether a shirt that completely revealed her entire back was a turn on for other guys or not. he was sure that it wouldn’t be a problem, saying that it was “just her back”. And seeing as how my roomate was one of the cutest girls alive, I assure you he was wrong.

  30. katie
    February 17, 2012 at 1:35 pm #

    Though, this whole thing would have been a different story if he had given the note to one of the freshman here at BYU that I see at the Canon center who seem to think that shimmery, latex thin leggings count as pants, or that if your shorts are competing with the length of your underwear, then you can flirt with the boys more easily.
    Come on ladies…

  31. Lish
    February 17, 2012 at 9:22 pm #

    For all the talk of looking past the mark or living by the spirit the law… there sure are a lot of swear words and downgrading statements about the Honor Code, which to me feels like breaking the spirit of the law. (For example, many people’s statements on this topic probably wouldn’t fly in the Savior’s presence.)

  32. Jon
    February 18, 2012 at 12:18 am #

    Shouldn’t we conclude that any code that deems this outfit immodest is misguided at best and Pharsaical at worst? Having been away from BYU for a while, I cannot tell you how unthinkably stupid it is that her outfit is subject to criticism of this kind.

    • February 18, 2012 at 12:14 pm #

      Seriously. Scarier than the fact that the initial incident happened are the comments from people on this thread trying to argue that she really was in violation of the Honor Code and therefore the young man was right in principle to call her out (though his execution may have been rude and wrong-headed), if she doesn’t like it she can go somewhere else, etc.

      A non-LDS friend heard about this incident last night and asked me about it on Facebook. This friend has never asked me about Mormons before, never said a cross word about them, and didn’t even know that BYU was associated with Mormonism or that my husband is LDS. His comments? “Your alma mater is wack,” “OMG that was crazy she’s all covered,” “i never knew beeing able to see the form of the knees is erotic.”

      Even though I lived there for five years, I still shake my head that there can be so many BYU Mormons who just don’t understand how insane this kind of behavior makes them look to outsiders. I’m glad that at least the majority of opinions seem to fall in support of Ms. Molina and her commitment to the Honor Code.

  33. Vinie Camille Dy Quiangco
    February 18, 2012 at 7:39 am #

    As I read the article, I felt that my rights as a woman wanted to wear a dress that I wanted was violated, well of course that doesn’t mean that I will give more priority to my rights as a girl over the standards of the church or of the school specifically the Honour code but of course, balance in life is very important. you know, as long as you are not hurting anyone’s feeling or hitting others’ rights then you can wear or do what you want to do well in accordance to your faith and in the standards of the school and the church . well I am not against this group who opposes girls wearing those attractive clothes, well in fact I admire their courage in following the honour code of the school, but they must remember that God have given us agency that we can use to decide and to choose what is best and right for you, and so reminding those girls on the campus like posting posters with a saying pertaining to the goodness of wearing not so daring clothes will do, or even you know meetings that will entail everybody with due respect. you know, whether you are in or not in BYU if you really want to keep your standards, it will always be possible for you. I hope this article makes sense.. :) please don’t hate me!:(
    Well, I wanted to study really in BYU law school and hoping that I’ll be admitted, I am so excited with all the people and students out there.

  34. Todd (aka Lish)
    February 18, 2012 at 8:08 am #

    Okay, so tell me what you really think about this whole Brittany Molina outburst. Who/which of the following do you think got the worst end of the stick?

    1. Brittany
    2. The young man who gave her the note
    3. The world’s perception of BYU and the Honor Code

    In my opinion, it is the young man. Many people have commented on how Brittany, or any other girl, would feel discouraged if somebody called them out this way. But nobody really seems to care about how crushed the young man must feel right now, with seemingly the whole world telling him what a loser he is. Easily, the greater crime has been committed by those who are bringing him down, and not by him. (You could probably make the same comparison to any other mistake somebody has made.)

    In a close second place, the Honor Code has been the recipient of so much sarcasm and negative backlash, and I feel rather offended by it, mostly because it has been done by people who are either BYU students themselves or members of the church, who should be standing by it. The positive comments about the Honor Code have unfortunately been few and far between. Anybody who says anything positive about the honor code, such as “Please live the Honor Code,” gets criticized for being self-righteous or pharisaic. (In my opinion, anybody who calls somebody else self-righteous is probably focusing on other people’s faults, and not on self-improvement.) I wish people would stand for good instead of lashing out at the minor faults of others.

    In a distant third, Brittany has received much more support than most people do when they are really having major life struggles (like a friend of mine who is recovering from an addition to drugs, yet most people dismiss him as an inevitable failure instead of offering support).

  35. Scott Sanders
    February 18, 2012 at 9:37 am #

    BYU alum here. I am embarrassed by my BYU diploma, and never willingly let people know I attended the “Harvard of the West.” (Hah!) One of my deepest regrets? Not going to UCLA when I had the chance.

    • Bella Bronsema
      February 18, 2012 at 8:44 pm #

      Seems like a very valid regret!

  36. Old Old Vic
    February 18, 2012 at 7:56 pm #

    The maiden clearly violated the letter of the law. Wasn’t there some fellow in the Bible who violated the letter of the law and even did it on the Sabbath? I think he was killed later on.

  37. Bella Bronsema
    February 18, 2012 at 8:43 pm #

    That’s it. No more floral print! From now on, solid colors only. Don’t even consider hot pink or any reds though! Too tempting by far.
    Wow. I love your outfit, It’s beautiful. They should not have commented in any negative way.

  38. AshleyO
    February 19, 2012 at 10:38 pm #

    Dear Young Man who wrote the note,

    Who are you to judge another???? I thought you went to the “Lord’s University”? How about trying to be a little more Christ like? I’m sorry that Brittany’s knee caps turned you on so much and that her beauty was so distracting. You are self righteous prick. Sounds like you need to see a counselor about controlling your thoughts and feelings. Maybe next time you should stay in your apartment and study?!? My thought is that they should ban creeps from the library, including you.

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